Barak Obama Campaign Promises

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By JON EWALL

How did president Obama complete his first year as president in the

opinion of the people? Let us look back to Obama, the candidate and

the president who now occupies the Whitehouse. For some answers.

During the 2008 presidential election campaign for the presidency,

candidate Obama promised hope and change will be coming to

Washington. The reform legislation that Obama and the majority

democrat party are pushing for have confirmed his intentions of

changing the economic systems in American government.

In November 2008 Barak Obama was elected president by the people

to serve all the people in governing our great nation. Obama was

elected either because of his color, because of his political parties

affiliation or because of his promised to bring change to Washington.

Each of these suggested reasons helped him to become the nations

44th president and the first black president in US history.

Let us look back to what candidate Obama pledged to the American

people if elected. President Barak Obama pledged:

1.To bring back the jobs lost in 2007 and 2008. In 2009 the nations

unemployment went from 7% in 2008 to 10%( in some areas

17% ). Obama’s administration bailed out the auto industry,

banking industry, saved the union workforce and even helped the

unions get ownership in the companies by forcing the creditors to

lose their financial investments in the companies. The Obama

administration has increased the size of government by 10%, added

more union jobs and commissions. Government unemployment

stands at 3% and government employees and congress did get a raise.

in 2009 while the deficit increased.

2.To fix the economic problems by passing the $787 billion Tarp

bill (congress passed the bill without reading or debating the bill

as required by constitutional rules.), promised that unemployment

would not exceed 8% and shovel ready jobs were available to jump

start the economy. As of today approximately 60% of Tarp has not

been spent and unemployment remains at 10%. Recently the CBO

projected Tarp will need $85 billion more added to the $787 billion

bill. One should note that all of the above is borrowed money adding

to the nations skyrocketing debt.

3.To have fiscal responsibility and control spending, Barak Obama

promised to go line for line and strike out pork in the Tarp bill. The

president signed the Tarp bill without cutting any pork out of the bill.

On wed.1/27/10 in the state of the union speech Obama stated he

would put a freeze on spending. Congress on 1/29/10 passed

legislation to raise the national debt by another $1.9 billion, the

second increase in 60 days, raising the debt ceiling to$14.5 trillion.

4.To rid Washington of lobbyist and special interest groups. Presently

in his administration Barak Obama has at least 30 lobbyist, some

appointments are know as czars. Obama has been meeting with

union officials ( special interest )at the white house on a regular basis.

5.To surround himself with experienced and capable people, like tax

cheaters, Marxist, communist and socialist. known as czars. These

employees were not background investigated as required by the FBI.

The question remains as to why the procedure was exempted. .

6.To have an open transparent government and to allow C-Span to

televise the debates and congressional meetings. Folks it didn’t

happen, C-Span was denied access (that is called censorship.) The

president and the democrats met behind closed doors denying the

minority party’s participation in the negotiations. By the way the

minority party was elected by the people to represent the people.

Essentially the people were locked out and ignored.

7 To close Gitmo last year. The president sent some prisoners to

Bermuda, a terrific propaganda move. More could be said but for now

a continuing story to be told. Gitmo is still open.

8.To end the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, the president and his advisers

are talking in the whitehouse. To be continued .

9.To give 95% of the people a tax break and not to tax anyone below

$250,000, by the way according to some officials the ceiling has

dropped down to $100,000 with a possibility to $85,000 due to lack of

money coming into the treasury.

Check this out, president Obama and congress will tax the rich.

If 2 or 3% are the rich and they pay 50% of federal taxes, according to

Obama 50% of the nation don’t pay federal taxes, I wonder who will be

paying the taxes. ( the middle class )?FUZZY MATH?

10.To not allow no bid contracts in his administration. A major news

source reported that Obama approved a $25 million no bid contract to a

donor of his campaign. The contract recently was cancelled after being

exposed by the media..

11. To reduce the deficit by 50% in his first term. The fact is that the

Obama administration has triple the deficit in his first year in office.

The proposed budget for 2011($3.85 trillion )given to congress will

be the largest ever in our history if passed by congress.

The above information you will not see in the bias press or reported

on ABC,CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, or other liberal news medias.

Watch C-Span or Fox News, they report and broadcast the actual

uncensored news

The presidents rating is ‘’F’’ in his first year ?

In summary, let us be fair when president Obama talks about what

his administration and congress was left with after the past

administration. The simple facts are that then senator Obama and

the present democrat party took control of congress in January

2007 and 2008 with a lame duck president George W. Bush.

Surely it is irresponsible to blame the Bush administration for all

the present problems without noting that the democrat majority

controlled congress in 2007 and 2008. President Obama and the

democrats should be accepting their political parties share of the

blame for their part in the recession. President Obama and the

democrat super majority had full control of the economy in 2009 .

The president has yet to fulfill many of his election promises of

which unemployment remains the highest priority. One should note

that no president can spend any money without the approval of

Congress.

Your Author Jon Ewall

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jon@chicagoconsultant.com

Comments

sheila b. Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

Maybe you could tell us more about The Chicago Way!

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sheila b.

Where did i mention the chicago way ?

For your info Today the president said

he is adopting pay-go on spending

He said congress has to stop spending

Congress recently raised the debt ceiling to $14.1 trillion with his urging

Watching the president appearing and saying such wonderful things when he does just the opposite disturbs many people.he really needs to start telling the American people the truth

Have a great day and thanks for your reply

jon e

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OpinionDuck 2 years ago

jon e

Well said, and true.

Barrack Obama can do the well said, but he doesn't do the follow through.

Thanks

jon ewall 2 years ago

OpinionDuck

the latest was president Obama closing the summit on 2/25/10 that he (president of the USA )moderated on the Obama health care reform bill.Obama basically told the republicans ( the representatives of the people )that he will get the legislation done without them if need be.

without jobs there will not be people paying for healthcare hence premiums will be going up for those lucky enough to have an employer paying the employee's premiums.

obama and congress still don't get it, we need jobs first and no more spending increasing the deficit. dumb dumbs,idiots and arrogant political brain dead carpetbaggers.

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politicsdaylee 2 years ago

Thanks bro you are on track!

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MikeNV Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

RD... think about those initials. Really Dumb? Hmm... I think you know what I'm saying. Over and over no matter how much Proof you put in front of the Obama supporters... they just choose to live in their own pathetic world of Denial.

Tell them that 34,000 troops were in Afghanistan when Obama took office and now there are 100,000 and point to Obama's promise to end the war and these Obama supporters become dumbfounded. But they still won't accept what a total lying POS he is.

In basketball they say you can't coach "quickness". And in the real world you can't make non-intelligent people intelligent.

We live is a country half full of people who do not have the brain power to understand even simple logic... even when the FACTS are clearly presented.

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msorensson Level 3 Commenter 23 months ago

Indeed..I have heard from everybody the same questions...As I do not pay particular attention to politics, even though I do vote my conscience when I am inside the booth, I do not know of any politician's promises.

One cannot fathom, from an intellectual point of view, why he is doing what he is doing. Thank you.

I did hear from one person why he is keen on the immigration law as it appears to me not a priority at this moment...the people whom he wishes to legalize right now will vote for him during his re-election.

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msorensson

HE IS A MUSLIN, I heard him say it and I also seen it in an interview when he was running for the presidency.Just another fact covered up by the media and press.

THE TAPE PROBALLY HAS BEEN DESTROYED, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT

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msorensson

CHECK THIS SITE

http://hubpages.com/hub/Obama-Admits-Hes-A-Muslim

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For example I wrote regarding finance reform and cap and trade

I caught Glen Beck on Fox News, he was exposing the questionable

relationships of Goldman Sachs( campaign funding to Barak

Obama and some Dem's $33 MILLION ),the unions ( SEIU

and the AFLCIO ),Frank Raines (took $90 million out of Fannie

Mae ),Joel Rodgers (the apollo alliance group, they wrote the

Healthcare Reform bill for congress ),Al Gore ( investments in

the Chicago Climate Exchange),Joyce foundation (connections

with Barak Obama and Valerie Jarrett) and president Barack Obama.

GLEN BECK USED OLD ACTUAL NEWS CLIPS TO

SUPPORT THE ACCUSATIONS

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hubbers

Today is 3/7/11 and President Obama has been in office some 25 months. I pointed out 11 of the Presidents promises he made to the American people if elected. Out of the 11 ,Obama has not performed on 1,3,4,6,7,8,10 and 11 of his promises, another ‘’f‘’ rating

.

The only accomplishment that he could possibly consider a kept promise is

on items 2. spending on the $825 billion stimulus bill , item 5. surround himself with experienced and capable people ( could be questionable) and item 9. give 95% of the people a tax break ( really not a tax break but he didn‘t raise everyone’s taxes)

.

As he begins his 3rd year in office, the shine that he once had is getting pretty dull. It’s becoming clear as to who and what he represents being in the Whitehouse.

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hubbers

The 2010/2011 budget has yet to be approved by the Senate. President Obama and the Democrats are pushing for another extension to funding the government.Will the Republicans hold firm to the $65 billion in cuts?

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HUBBERS

An update on the 2010-2011 buget

Check out this link on Fox sunday.

. RYAN TELLS IT THE WAY IT IS!

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-sunday/inde

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HUBBERS

The 2012 budget battle has started with Obama and Congressman Ryan attending town hall meetings .President Obama don't speak about what is in his budget but the comments he made to Congressman's Ryan’s budget are not totally truthful. The campaign for the 2012 Presidency has officially started.

Yesterday the Obama administration approved a bonus of $2.6 billion for Medicare plans that need money to pay for coverage in the plans, that’s after Obamacare cut $500 billion from Medicare in the original bill.

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hubbers

President Obama, the Democrat controlled Senate and the Republican controlled House of Representatives will have a need to work in a bipartisan way to control spending and reduce the national debt. The Democrats have had control of Congress since 2006 and after the 2010 elections, the Democrats still control 2/3 of our government. Under the Obama Administration the yearly deficits has increased the national debt $4.5 trillion. A second round of oil speculation and rising prices in food, gasoline, corn, wheat, clothing , healthcare costs and a stagnant economy with the devaluation of the American dollar ( loss of 20% value ) requires our governments immediate attention.

When President Obama took office in Jan 2009, a gallon of gasoline was $1.843. On 4/23/11 gasoline prices hit $5.16 a gallon in Florida and California. In Jan. 2009 a barrel of oil was $37.74, today on the world market crude oil prices hit $124 a barrel and here in the US IT HIT $112 a barrel. One must wonder when the president will understand that the national security is at risk and that Obama’s inactions are not in the best interest of the American people and the economy.

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hubbers

The President didn’t tell the public that Ryan’s Budget repeals Obamacare ,cuts in doctor’s pay , Medicare payments to healthcare providers and IPAD, a government department that will decide if a service is needed or not needed. When Medicare cuts payments, co-pays increase, meaning the patient will pay more out of pocket cost.

4.A trillion dollars in tax breaks for the rich (the extension of the parts of the Bush tax cuts that Obama wants to see expire)

.

The president didn’t say that allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire will immediately raise taxes rates and taxes for everyone. The President can call it anything that he wants but it is a tax increase on all. Hardest hit are small businesses, middle class and the poor.

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hubbers

What the president didn’t tell the people is that in the existing HEALTHCARE bill there are $250 billion in new taxes and $500 billion in MEDICARE cuts. The bill requires everyone to purchase insurance otherwise the government will impose a penalty. There are other sections that businesses and the unions are getting waivers from the Obama administration because of the cost to comply.

Wake up America, Obama is on the road campaigning and telling the American people how the Republicans are hurting the poor and middle class.

The CBO now estimates that the Healthcare bill will not be deficit neutral as first reported. The bill will create a $1 trillion deficit now that the Obama administration has revised the information.

PJ 12 months ago

Where are you getting your information? Whenever I watch Fox News they make statements they can't back up. The campaign promises of any candidate have to be adjusted once they get the full brunt of what's happening and if you check out the facts you will see that what you are doing is using information from a biased media company without any backed up facts. As far as the deficit goes, I have found where Obama pledged to cut the deficit in half in 5 years, but not in 2, yet FoxNews and Republican Presidential hopefuls keep quoting it over and over. Please reference the articles where you are getting your information. If you simply quote what Newt told you and believed it, are you a patriot or a puppet? Political parties on all sides are using mindless followers like you to spread irrelevant, inaccurate, and absurd information. This article should not be taken seriously unless citations for your "facts" are given. Just scrolled through your post again...nope no citations in sight. Moving on...

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PJ

VERY INTERESTING REPLY TO MY HUB!

The local business sections newspapers, Google at times, Saturday business discussions on Fox, Sunday News programs ( I select who I want to watch), they repeat all thru the day on cable. As I said before:

Watch C-Span or Fox News, they report and broadcast the actual uncensored news.Cavuto always has on both parties ( sometimes the Democrat refuses an invitation).

If you watch CNN ,they inject their opinions into the news ( selected news, don't show it all ). Fox News ''fair and balanced '','' we report, you decide ''

Fox Lies if you see a lie, send me a note and I will check it out.

You said ‘’Fox News they make statements they can't back up’’ very interesting statement.

On Fox ( probably only Fox ) they will show actual tapes of whoever ( past and present )of the subject ( not cut up to only show portions ).

I reviewed my hub and stand by it! If anything I have written is wrong point it out, I welcome a debate or a correction. Sometimes the actual #s vary, in most cases later the Whitehouse is correcting past statements. Many on the deficit, unemployment, budget estimates, statements as to what happened (how about the UBL killing) and various half truths coming out of the President at times ( HE DOES LIE or is misinformed ).

‘’ Obama pledged to cut the deficit in half in 5 years, but not in 2, yet ‘’ OBAMA did say, before his first term is over ,he will reduce the deficit in half. SEE #11

I seen him say it on a news tape!

PJ When a hubber leaves a link to support a statement, I will read it. Than I search on the page who are the website parties and their political backgrounds. There is a lot of bias reporting, much of it says ‘’Fox Lies’ and other statements very biased to Fox News commentators like Glen Beck, O’Reilly, Hannity and whoever. Be open minded and try to get ahead of the propaganda on the net and in the mainstream media.

Looking foreword for you to point to which item is incorrect.

Your response will be appreciated.

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hbbers

AN UPDATE ON CURRENT NEWS!

Since President Barak '' I'' Obama took office in Jan 2009 the following

events have happened .

1. Medicaid costs increased 54%

2.food stamp

distribution up 60%

3.A gallon of gasoline up 100%4.

4. Social Security will be broke in 2018

5. Homeowner mortgages 28% underwater

6.Housing market medium home prices fell 4.6%

Values dropped for 57 consecutive months

7. Inflation up 3.2%

8. Price of hamburger meat was $1.29 now $3.50 per pound

9. The National Debt ceiling $14.3 trillion was reached today.

Government wants to borrow $2 trillion from federal employees pension

funds to keep afloat to 8/2/11

10. unemployment closing in on 10% again

11.THE Medicare trust fund will be broke in 2024

The Ryan budget proposal changes in Medicare wouldn’t happen until 2021 ( a good estimate ?)

12 There is more to be listed as time goes by

The obama administration claims that the economy has gotten better and improving. Just wondering where they are getting their information?

Hang in there with Obama and Company, they need more time to fix the problems that they inherited from the last Congress and President Bush.

How would you RATE the last 29 months of the Obama/ Democrat controlled Congress?

FROM 0 TO 10 , be honest if you can!

AN INTERESTING ARTICLE

http://hubpages.com/hub/George-Soros-Meet-Obamas-E

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HUBBERS

CHECK OUT THE DEBATE ON FOX regarding the Ryan budget

Ryan and Van Hollen Debate Medicare Proposals 6/3/11

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/06/03/ryan-and-van-

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PJ

I'M STILL WAITING FOR A REPLY as to what I wrote that was incorrect. Where do you get your information?? If it's on the whitehouse.gov or other .govs, you are not getting the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Last Sat., Obama's description of what is happening to the national debt limits negotiations wasn't all factual.

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PJ

Under the leadership of President Obama, the Senate has not presented a budget proposal for 952 days going back to 2009.A 2012 budget has been approved by the Republican House in Feb and sent to the Senate awaiting to be presented to Senate members.

The fact is that 2/3’s of our government is not working in the best interest of the people. Where and when will Congress act to get the promised jobs? Blaming the 1/3 that is working is disingenuous and misleading.

On Dec 15,2011, Congress will need to vote the third time to continue funding the government.

Obama and the Senate has yet to present a 2012 budget. The House passed their 2012 budget in Feb as require by House rules.

Where are the jobs? Check this site. http://majorityleader.gov/JobsTracker/

The question remains as to what is the best direction for the country. Do we raise taxes or do we cut spending? The national debt has exceeded $15 trillion and counting. In order to prevent a collapse of our system, Congress/ Government must cut spending.

The 1% cannot be taxed as to completely solve the problems of our nation. Without Small business providing the working class jobs, the necessary revenues to manage the government will never occur

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hubbers

Obama and the Democrats claimed VICTORY by passing the 2 month payroll tax holiday!

CONGRESS PASSED a 2 month extension of the Payroll Tax holiday today, Dec. 23, 2011.Obama and the Democrats fought hard for the 2 month extension. Obama claimed victory for the people, some how he is satisfied with 2 months rather than the Republican House bill that was a 1 year extension. The House bill was deficit neutral as required by Pay-Go legislation signed by President Obama in 2010.

The President held a press conference ( no questions as usual ) said that the tax extension would save working workers $ 1200 a year , somehow he forgot that the Senate bill was for ONLY 2 MONTHS. The factual savings varies from $20.00 / week to $40.00/ week. The total would save about $180.00 average to a worker. Obama and Congress working hard for the people left Washington, will return in January to re start the negotiations on passing a longer term.

Here’s the real scoop. The Senate passed the bill for 2 months because they could only find enough cuts to offset the expenditure of $ 33 billion. What a waste of taxpayer time and money!

Another delay in finding a solution.

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hubbers

The President and the Democrat leadership have forgotten that the Pay-Go law ,2/13/10,calls for any new taxes to be offset by government cutting existing spending costs.

The Mainstream media and the President calls a 2 month extension a victory,one should wonder who the victory is for?

President Barack Obama is hailing pay-as-you-go BUDGET legislation he

signed Friday night as one in a series of crucial steps needed to snap

Washington out of a destructive pattern of overspending.

“Now, Congress will have to pay for what it spends, just like everybody

else,” Obama said in his radio and Internet address released Saturday

morning. “After a decade of profligacy, the American people are tired of

politicians who talk the talk but don’t walk the walk when it comes to

fiscal responsibility. It’s easy to get up in front of the cameras and RANT

against exploding deficits. What’s hard is actually getting deficits under

control. But that’s what we must do.”

The PAYGO compels NEW spending or tax changes to not add to the federal deficit. Not to be confused with pay-as-you-go financing, which is when a government saves up money to fund a specific project. Under the PAYGO rules a new proposal must either be "budget neutral"

or offset with savings derived from existing funds.

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hubbers

The Obama economy adds $4.5 trillion to the national debt in the first 3 years of his first term in office. A record of accomplishment OF BRINGING CHANGE TO WASHINGTON!

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hubbers

On Jan. 19,2012, President Obama announced his decision NOT to allow the Keystone oil pipeline project to proceed.The ready to go project would have put 20,000 workers to work immediately. Republicans in Congress will continue the fight for a project start.

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hubbers

ON JAN. 24,2012 the Democrat controled Senate votes 52-44 to grant President Obama's request for another $1.2 trillion, raising the national debt to over $16 trillion.

Check out the Coburn report.

THE TRUE FACTS

WASTE IN GOVERNMENT ALL IN THE RED

‘’ Back In Black’’

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tVJ2gqqKWs

The Senator Coburn report '' WASTE IN GOVERNMENT'' http://coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/rightnow

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hubbers

The President’s plan in the 2012 election is for everything to be ‘’ FAIR’’.

Let’s be FAIR when President Obama talks about what

his administration and Congress was left with after the past

administration. The simple facts are that then Senator Obama and

the present Democrat party took full control of Congress in January

2007 and in 2008

During the 2008 presidential election campaign for the presidency,

candidate Obama promised hope and change will be coming to

Washington. The reform legislation that Obama and the majority

Democrat party are pushing for have confirmed his intentions of

changing the ways in American government.

1.To bring back the jobs lost in 2007 and 2008

2.To fix the economic problems by passing the $787 billion Tarp bill (Congress passed the bill without reading or debating the bill

3.To have fiscal responsibility and control spending, Barak Obama

promised to go line for line and strike out pork in the Tarp bill

6.To have an open transparent government and to allow C-Span to

televise the debates and congressional hearings.

11. To reduce the deficit by 50% in his first term.

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2/17/12 AN Update

The Senate under the leadership of Senator Reid has yet to pass a 2012 budget ( 1022 days and counting ) since President Obama took office. IN NOV.2012, WE THE PEOPLE must consider a change in Washington .One must wonder where are the jobs promised by the Democrat majority party in 2008? Since Jan. 2007, the government has been ( 2/3's ) controlled by the Democrat party members. It is hard to understand why President Obama always refers to what his administration was left with when he took the office of the Presidency. Senator Obama, Senator Reid and Speaker Pelosi were controlling the purse strings of the government, that‘s a fact. It’s all about ‘’ smoke and mirrors’’ and the mainstream media are not reporting.

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hubbers

Congress has passed an extension of the payroll tax cut and long-term jobless benefits, handing to President Obama one of his election-year PRIORITIES despite widespread concerns about the bill's DEFICT implications. For the 2012 election, Barak Obama wants legislation to be ‘’FAIR’’, REALLY!

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/17/house-a

Today Feb. 17,2012, the Republican house voted to pass a 1 year extension to the Obama pay-roll tax credit for 160 million working Americans. The Senate followed within minutes approved the measure 60-36.Republicans GAVE UP on their demands that the tax cuts BE PAID FOR. According to the Congressional Budget Office, the package will INCREASE the budget deficit by $126 billion over the next five years.

"I cannot and I will not support legislation that extends the payroll tax holiday WITHOUT PAYING for it," said Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga. "This will add $100 billion to the deficit and it will create an even greater shortfall within the Social Security trust fund that already has over $100 billion SHORTFALL just in the last two years."

ON 2/13/10 President Obama signed PAY-GO legislation that require new spending to be offset with budgeted cuts. The legislation pushed thru by the President and a Democrat super majority Congress required all new spending to be deficit neutral.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32921.ht

The end result of passing the bill without reducing spending, as required by the pay-go law, will be at the expense of the American taxpayer. The funds to supplement the social security trust fund will be borrowed and increase the National Debt. At a congressional hearing today, a Congressman stated that the actual unfunded liabilities of our government is $96 TRILLION, parts of which is Medicare, Social Security, government Pensions and other non mentionables.

WE HAVE A CORRUPT GOVERNMENT! President Lincoln once said, ‘’ To remain silent is to be a coward ‘’. Senator Coburn needs support. The Senator Coburn report '' WASTE IN GOVERNMENT'' fellow Americans there are many places to cut spending!

http://coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/rightnow

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12/04/11, Key Lawmakers on Extending Payroll Tax Cut!

Sens. Coburn, Conrad on 'Fox News Sunday'

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-sunday/inde/v/1309416477001/key-lawmakers-on-extending-payroll-tax-cut/?playlist_id=86913

The truth is not being told by the mainstream media.

PAY GO LAW just another obama rejection of the law!

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32921.ht

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jamz mitchell 8 weeks ago

Jon

You have put together some great DATA! But you left out some of the FACTS! Your data is really good for the Obama Adminstration to use when they sit down to access! but when you consider the limited control the PRESIDENT has and the POWER the people has..your DATA does not fill the gap. Politcal data will never explain the lack of QUALIFED CANDIDATES, low voter turn out, allowance of ooover paid execs. THOSE PROMISES are POLITICAL PLANKS, FIRE FOR THE TROOPS..just projections...COULD HE LEARN FROM THE MISTAKES? YES! BUT WHO CAN DO BETTER? WHO CAN WE TURN TOO?... I really liked the data it, caused me to pause!

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jamz mitchell

''you consider the limited control the PRESIDENT has and the POWER the people has.. your DATA does not fill the gap''

The government consist of 3 equal branches of which is the executive office of the President, Congress made up of the House of Representatives and the Senate in addition to the Judicial branch which includes the Supreme Court. The office of the President is the highest position in our government.

JM, EACH BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT has powers granted by the US Constitution. The President has made statements regarding the Judicial Branch that are inappropriate and irresponsible regarding the Supreme Court’s review of the new Healthcare Law. The only power of the American people comes when they go to the polls and vote. In Nov., the people will judge the president on his record in office.

The most important thing that we all must do is to get by the propaganda of the media and mainstream media. Seek the truth and try to be an informed voter!

Thank you for your visit to my hub.

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hubbers

an update on the ryan budget. '' the truth ''

STEPHANOPOULOS: This Week on CBS

the Ryan budget by Congressman Van Hollen

http://republicanredefined.com/2012/04/01/contrast

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hubbers

4/10/12

President Obama on the campaign trail in Florida continues to distort the Ryan/Republican House 2013 budget. Senator Reid will not allow a vote on the President's 2013 budget and the Senate for the past 3 years has not produced a budget.

Senator Reid refuses to put the House Budget on the floor so that a vote could take place. One must wonder why the President don't condemn his party for not allowing our Senators to debate, amend or vote on the only budget available.

We the people will have an opportunity to vote to clean up Washington in November.

Check this link

The President's Speech Distorts the Truth to Distract From His Failed Record

http://www.facebook.com/notes/paul-ryan/the-presid

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hubbers

An update,Obama chief strategist David Axelrod

Live and uncut, the facts

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-sunday/inde/v/1563643318001/is-president-obama-vulnerable/?playlist_id=86913

You be the judge!

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Another attempt to take control of government agencies?

4/13/12

Obama order coordinates federal oversight of 'fracking,' gas development

http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/221395-ob

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Let's go back in time. Today it's all about Obama '' fairness ''.

President Barak Obama delivers the State of The Union speech Obama called for a new day of cooperation and unity . http://jon-ewall.hubpages.com/hub/PresidentBarakOb

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My Esoteric Level 6 Commenter 6 weeks ago

Certainly familiar refrains Jon, but a good compilation of the Conservative position, nevertheless. Obviously, I can't respond to all of your points in one comment, but let me start with #1 and #2 on your list, since they were related.

1. I am surprised you failed to note that 1) when Obama took office at the end of January, the Bush policies and Conservative Recession had driven up unemployment from a low of 4.4% in May 2007 to 7.8% in Jan 2009 (not 2008), when Bush left office. The real rise, however, began in May 2008, when unemployment jumped from 5% to an incredible, at that time, 5.4%. From that point on, unemployment rose an average of .3% per month after only rising .0375% per month in the previous same time period, a ten-fold increase! Now enter Obama who promised to turn-things around in his "first term" or so, not his first "year", as Conservatives try to make everyone believe. You would agree, wouldn't you Jon, that unemployment was accelerating on Feb 1, 2009? If not, please go back and study your data.

Now, let me ask you ... have you every tried to stop a boulder from rolling down a steep hill while your opponents are trying to cut the legs out from under you? Well, the momentum of unemployment caused by the Great Conservative recession of 2008 was a very large boulder indeed and further, "no president in the history of the United States" has stopped the increase in unemployment, in similar circumstances, as did President Obama. To stop it a little over 10% in eight months is nothing short of miraculous; your hero, President Reagan, couldn't do it. I am not sure why you didn't mention any of that.

I will leave the auto bail-out which saved the country from a depression (another point you forgot) to separate comment.

2. TARP was signed into law by President Bush on October 3, 2008, not President Obama. It was for $700 billion, which Obama later reduced by $475 billion. You failed to mention in your follow comments, I believe, that TARP has actually made the taxpayer money, let alone not cost them a dime, which, I admit, wasn't thought to have a chance in hell of ever happening.

What I believe you are referring to is President Obama's "stimulus" bill signed into law February 17, 2009 with implementation beginning March 2009. One of the results was the stock market recovery in May 2009, another missing fact. The $787 billion was planned to be expended out over the next three of four years with immidiate relief going to the States, the taxpayers and the unemployed. Because they knew it would take time to spin-up those "shovel-ready" jobs, the construction stimulus wasn't planned to start until late 2009 and on into 2010 and 2011. (a few free factoids)

Jon, I am surprised you failed to mention that President Obama "never" PROMISED that he would stop unemployment from exceeding 8%. I challange you to find one quote from him, or any one in his administration or senior campaign staff that made such a "promise"; it simply does not exist. Your research should have shown that the 8% number was a "highly" caveated "estimate" from his economic team in very early January 2009, before, I believe, they even knew unemployment had sky-rocketed from 6.8% in Nov 2008 to 7.3% in Dec 2008! Your research would have also shown their "estimate" of 8% was based on 3rd Qtr, 2008 data, rather than 4th Qtr, which wasn't available until late January 2009. As we all know, the full force of the recession wasn't evident until January 2009. So to keep flinging that easily disproven old myth around is a bit disceptive, wouldn't you say?

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A terrific reply. I will respond since your remarks need some clarifications as to my statements.

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1.To bring back the jobs lost in 2007 and 2008

Since taking office the Obama administration has lost 2 million more jobs.

A Obama’s administration bailed out the auto industry

At taxpayer expense, government has NO BUSINESS taking over companies in the PRIVATE SECTOR. If labor and management can’t compete, they go bankrupt and are bought up by other investors who start up companies with a NEW SLATE. There are other ways Government can help to keep companies afloat WITHOUT using taxpayer money, in this case, BORROWED MONEY.

The methods that Obama used to take over the companies were like a SOCIALIST STATE.

2.To fix the economic problems by passing the $787 billion Tarp

bill (congress passed the bill Without reading or DEBATING the bill

as required by constitutional rules.),

A Democrat Congressman and Obama remarked when questioned regarding the process pushed by the Democrat controlled Congress, ‘’WE WON, WE CAN DO IT BECAUSE WE WON’’ when referring to the Constitution and Congressional procedures.

Take note to #3.’’Barak Obama

promised to go line for line and strike out pork in the Tarp bill.’’ NOT TRUE

Pork was passed out with Obama’s approval.

Take note #4.’’To rid Washington of lobbyist and special interest groups’’

Special interest visitors to the Whitehouse were George Soros, Andy Stern president of SEIU union and Mr. Trumpka, president of the AFL-CIO unions. Mr. trumpka bragged that he has weekly conference calls to the Whitehouse.

My reply to your post.

1. ‘’Bush policies and Conservative Recession ‘’

The recession started in Nov. 2007, only 11 months after the Democrats took majority control of Congress. Republican passed ZERO legislation.’’ ’’In May 2008, when unemployment jumped from 5% to an incredible, at that time, ’’Democrats including Senator Obama was in majority control with a lame duck President Bush.

2. Obama administration started his term with a SUPER MAJORITY ( filibustered proof with the Independents voting with the Democrats ) with unemployment at 7.6% and a bankroll of $700 billion (Tarp fund ) and $787 billion stimulus funds all passed by the majority Democrats under the leadership of Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid.

‘’The $787 billion was planned to be expended out over the next THREE of Four years with immediate relief going to the States, the taxpayers and the unemployed’’ YEARS- NOT TRUE .’’shovel-ready" jobs‘’, OBAMA ADMITTED there were NO shovel ready jobs. Stimulus money went to districts that didn’t exist ( reported by the media). Waste was abundant on projects that didn’t even get built. The stimulus grew to $ 1 trillion. The Tarp bill required any monies paid back or not used were to go back to the Treasury to pay down the deficit. Obama and the Dems spent the money, Republicans were overruled when they fought to return the money to the Treasury ( the law was broken).

After spending and adding $5 trillion to the National Debt some say that OBAMA DID GOOD. Really! Hubbers please forgive the long reply.

To be continued

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1. Yes, you are correct, the recession did start "only" 11 months after Democrats gained a majority in Congress (gee, I wonder why that happened?), but they did not have control as we see today, the Conservatives in the Senate can stop any legislation they choose to; they can do it today, and the could do it then ... but didn't (gee, I wonder why?).

In any case, as anyone knows who as even a small understanding on how an economy works knows, it takes years for this kind of near depression to develop. By the time Democrats gained a modicum of control in Congress, the recession was a foregone conclussion.

Unless they moved the election date up several months, Bush was hardly a "lame-duck" president.

I presume you are counting in your two million, the 1.3 million lost in Feb and Mar 2009, less than 60-days after he took the oath of office, are you implying Obama was God and could work miracles, or should those job losses be more properly attributed to Bush?

Yes, Tarp, which Bush signed, was passed by a Democratic Congress who held a bare majority, it was a clearly bi-partisan vote. As to the stimulas, it was good that the Democrats had a supermajority as without it, this country would still be in a depression because of Conservative recalcitrance to mitigate their past poor performance.

Please show me the statements by Obama, or his administration, that the Stimulus was to be 100% spent immediately. I doubt that you can because they simply don't exist. On the other hand, I can provide multiple examples where Obama stated flatly, this was going to take a lot of time.

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''the Conservatives in the Senate can stop any legislation they choose to; they can do it today, and the could do it then .''

The Republican and Democrat Senators can't stop anything UNLESS SENATOR REID ALLOWS A/THE BILLS on the floor.

C-Span broadcasted a Senate Budget Committee meeting on April 18, 2012 , the meeting was chaired by Senator Conrad. The Ryan/ Republican 2013 House budget was discussed in a BI-PARTISAN attempt to force Senator Reid to allow the bill to be discussed on the Senate floor. In closing the meeting ,Chairman Senator Conrad stated that the '' budget control act of 2011'' sufficed as a 2013,2014 and 2015 budget. The Senator 's statement was incorrectly stated. Budgets produce line item expenses and require Congress to pass a budget and forward to the President for his signature to be official. Senator Reid refuses to allow a vote on the President’s 2013 budget and the House’s budget passed by the House as required by Congressional rules. The Democrats game plan is not to do anything on the 2013 budget until after the Nov. 2012 general elections. The CBO estimated that the 2012 budget year is projected to show a $1.56 deficit. Since 2009 and each year of the Obama Administration, the total deficits are well over $5 trillion.

Obama says that he needs another 4 years to fix the mess that he inherited from the previous administration. REALLY, should the American people be fooled again.

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There is no question you are correct in your statement, Jon, but, by "only" saying that your statement becomes misleading. In my opinion the statement, to be accurate, should be,

"The Republican and Democrat Senators can't stop anything UNLESS SENATOR REID ALLOWS A/THE BILLS on the floor, 'and once there, the Conservatives in the Senate can stop any legislation they choose to; they can do it today, and the could do it then .'

Of course Democrats, when in the minority, have the same option, if the Conservatives don't have a supermajority, however, when they were in the miniority in the past, they used that power very sparingly. Even in the future it is problamatic that they could do it anyway because the Democrats are more representative of the American public by containing a mix of conservatives through liberals in it and, in any case, there is no way Reid could exercise the dictatorial power that McConnell does over the Republicans, who are 98% conservative or very conservative.

I need to make a technical correction. "Budget Resolutions" are submitted and passed in the House and Senate and sets the topline for expendatures of various large segments of the government expense sheet. It is a "resolution" and NOT a law that is signed by the President. If Congress doesn't want to pass on, they don't have to. It is the "Appropriations" that end up being law, and Conrad as almost right, I didn't think the Budget Control Act lasted to 2015.

BTW, the projected deficit for 2013 is less than $800 billion.

You, and other conservatives, keep complaining about how long it is taking Obama to effect a recovery, and the cost to do so. What does your research show is the average recovery time of getting the ecomony and/or unemployment back to the levels prior to its beginning, say for the last 15 recessions/depressions the size of the 2008 one or bigger?

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LET'S LOOK AT THE FACTS,the present and the future of our government.From now to the election what will Obama accomplish besides BLAMING someone or party for not accomplishing what he promissed.If you consider the government taking over 25% of the economy a good thing or a bad thing. Did the $700 billion (tarp ) and the $787 billion( stimulus, now over $1 trillion)spent have an impact on the economy and jobs bring about the changes he promised in 2009 or has he failed.

Since Jan 2009, his administration has produced $5.4 trillion in deficits.

Hopefully in 2012, Obama and many others who are a part of the corruption in Washington will be sent packing.

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My Esoteric Level 6 Commenter 5 weeks ago

The problem Jon, those on the extreme, Left or Right, don't give a hang about FACTS; that is one characteristic on being extreme, after all.

QUESTION - Assuming you agree that the country was headed for a depression, as most conservative economists were predicting by Oct 2008, and you are one of the Conservatives who DO NOT believe a depression would be a good cleansing experience for the country, how much of the $5.4 trillion (I will use your figure, mine is lower), is a result of having to stop this country from going into a depression? --- wouldn't you agree that the remainder is a what should be fairly attributed to Obama?

FACT - unemployment was ACCELERATING past 7.8% when Obama took office

FACT - in previous recessions/depressions of the same size or worse, minimum unemployment ended up between 15% and 30% when the government did nothing

FACT - with TARP and the STIMULUS, 1) the stock market turned around two months after the stimulus was announced, 2) layoffs were reduced from 700,000 per month in February 2009 (which was an accelerating number) to around 300,000 per month by June 2009 to job gains by January 2010 (a historically quick recovery), 3) unemployment peaked at 10.1% instead of what is NORMALLY a much higher number.

FACT - The Conservatives have done everything in their power to thwart Obama from improving the economy.

FACT - Conservatives changed the dynamics of how the Senate works by requiring a super-majority for ANYTHING they don't like to be brought to the floor for a vote (it has always been historically true that the Majority leader has first crack at it so blaming Reid for that is disinginuous as ALL Majority Leaders do it.)

I do agree with you on one thing, America needs to decide, either bring back en mass, an all Conservative, super-majority Congress so that they can chuck the Constitution and reinstate the Articles of Conderation and we can return to the good-old-days of the 1800s, or kick out the Conservatives and elect Republicans and Democrats who understand how the governmental process is supposed to work to move this country forward again.

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''FACT - The Conservatives have done everything in their power to thwart Obama from IMPROVING the economy.''

LIKE WHAT,can you be more specific.

JOBS JOBS when and where will they come from?

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1. Let's start with their campaign motto "There is nothing more important than to make Obama a one-term president" (paraphrasing Senator McConnell's openning remarks)

2. Taking the use of the power to filibuster to UNHEARD of and unintended heights in order to block virtually ALL Democratic legislation; unless it became too politically destructive not to compromise at the last second.

3. Making our founding fathers who signed the Constitution turn over in their graves by taking the word "Compromise" purposefully out of the their vocabulary ... many in the Conservative/Tea Party ranks have stated they believe compromise is a BAD thing.

4. The massive, and largely false, propaganda wars against the successful Bush TARP and Obama stimulus programs.

5. The negative pall they have placed over America from all of this propaganda which, given the economy is largely driven by the mood of the country, has had the effect of dampening/impeding the recovery.

6. By the House NOT proposing more than two bills, both accepted by Democrats, that actually would have increased jobs rather than being neutral or decreased them in 2011, at least untll I stopped counting in November.

7. Shall I stop? I can go on you know.

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Just finished watching on C-SPAN, Senator Schumer and Senator Durdin hold a hearing on AZ1070, the Arizona immigration law.

Another hollywood production by two of the Senates best. The rest of the committee, Democrats and Republicans, didn't show up for the hearing, doesn't that tell one how important the hearing was.

On 4/25/12, the Supreme Court will hear briefs from both sides of the AZ1070 law. If the AZ law is held constitutional, wondering how the Obama administration will handle the loss?

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Surprise, surprise, Jon, I absolutely agree with you about that hearing being a waste of time and money.

Good question, however, punt, I guess. All I have heard is that the Democrats will introduce legislation to make what AZ is doing explicitly illegal; somehow they think this, if passed, would get around the Court's objections.

However, I am beginning to wonder if the AZ bruhaha isn't much to do about nothing. I read this morning that, according to Homeland Security, the number of interceptions of illegals crossing the border as dropped from 1 million a year in 2005, to 250,000 in 2010 (or maybe 2011); and that after the huge build-up of border security that the federal government has done. That is a massive decrease that, to me, says Obama's effort (and Bush before him) is actually working.

What say you?

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1.''would get around the Court's objections'' DO YOU HAVE A CYRSTAL BALL? THE SUPREME COURT IS HEARING TESTAMONY, no decisions until June.In June, Obama and the government could lose 2 cases before the courts.The healthcare law and AZ SB1070 would be a blessing.

2.'' according to Homeland Security '', don't believe it. It's all Obama propaganda AND POLITICAL BULL.

CHECK whitehouse.gov , list of visitors to the whitehouse. Special interest visitors,George Soros, Andy Stern (SEIU union president) and Trumpka ( AFL-CIO president ).If you find them in the list, let me know.

Have a great day, my friend ( if I may call you my friend )

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My Esoteric Level 6 Commenter 5 weeks ago

1. That assuming the courts found in AZ's favor.

2. Tha numbers weren't from an Obama campaign speech but from research, presumably, by whoever wrote the article I read. Since there is no other source for such numbers, and it is a simple demographic HS, both under the Bush administration and Obama administration would maintain, unless either the reporter of HS is flat out lying, then I take the numbers at face value. The only reason I would change my mind is if you can find an authoritative source who has access to such information that has different data.

3. I can't. George Bush still won't release it, lol.

4. yes, you may, I have a friend in California that makes you look liberal, btw.

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2. The numbers are never the same. They are in most cases half truths. Something like propaganda.

3.You're a little behind the times. There are many people looking back to 2006 when Bush and the Republican majority were in charge.THE GOOD OLE DAYS

whitehouse.gov not all the information is the whole truth and nothing but the truth, something like propaganda? 4.I Heard a new description from a Democrat,'' progressive liberal''

NOPE , NOT A LIBERAL,but an independent. There is a right and a wrong. I DO BELIEVE IN the rule of law and punishment when the law is broken.

Iwas interviewed for an apointment on the town planning and zoning commission.I was asked '' what can you contribute to the p&z board. without thinking I said '' HONESTY AND INTEGRITY''. DIDN'T GET THE APPOINTMENT the town elected council members interviewing me, after sometime later talking about the interview, took the comment that I was referring to the council members.

Politians can't handle those two words.

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Sounds like my town.

I am not sure anybody along the political spectrum believes there isn't a right and wrong and that punishment is deserved when the law is broken (I wonder what punishment Thomas Jefferson should have received when he refused to deliver William Marbury his lawful commission to be Justice of the Peace in the D.C.?). The difference is the amount of gray that enters the picture as you move from Right to Left. For those on the far Right, the picture is pure black and white, no scales of gray whatsoever in terms of whether a law was broken or the punishment deserved. For example, those on the Right would say that a car which crossed a street against a yellow light broke the law if the light turns red an instant before his rear bumber clears the other side of the street, those on the left wouldn't and those on the Right would put a man in jail for the maximum term if he stole a loaf of bread to feed his family while those on the Left would simply give him probation.

In a real life example, those in the center and left in Congress wanted to help starving and destitute farmers in central Texas during the drought and long, double-dip depression of 1893 by passing bill authorizing $25,000 grants. President Grover Cleveland, a Bourbon Democrat (the Conervatives of the day), vetoed it by claiming the federal government had no business helping its citizenry out of destitute times. That, is the difference between the Right and the Left.

By the way, is there any position you and Rush Limbaugh disagree on?

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Thanks for the history lesson. In 2009,President Barak Obama pledged to change the State of the Union around. A review shows that pledges still have not been completed. Pledges # 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 -50%,9- 50%, 10-????, 11- a definite 0 grade.

When Obama took office, it was his job to administer the Tarp funds ($700 billion) approved in the Bush Administration. One of President Obama’s request was a $785 billion stimulus bill. Today the stimulus bill has increased to $1 trillion and the economy still has not recovered from the recession which ended in march of 2009.President Obama is in the last year of his term as President. Where did the money go and who received the money, the taxpayers should be asking of their elected officials.

The Senator Coburn report '' WASTE IN GOVERNMENT'' http://coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/rightnow

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My Esoteric Level 6 Commenter 4 weeks ago

Actually, given the Conservatives pledge NOT to let him keep ANY of his promises, I think he has done a fine job, much better than Bush, for sure, who destroyed this country. Also, consider that where Congress was needed to fulfill any of his promises, he didn't have dictatorial power over its Democratic members, a situation the founders approve of, like the Conservatives have over their members, which is probably making the founders turn over in their graves. Further, he only had the help of a favorable Congress for two years until the Conservatives came in and brought Congress to a standstill. Even with that, Obama has, in only three years, kept 45%, with another 29% still in the works and 13% being stalled by the Conservatives.

Given the depth of depression this ecomonmy was headed toward in Feb 2009, it is a miracle and a result of his $1 trillion, Conservative caused, stimulus that the economy began to recover as early as July, not March, of 2009. Without the stimulus and TARP, both of which wouldn't have been needed if the Conservatives knew how to run an economy, we might, based on historical standards, just now be starting the recovery ... that is the reality of the situation, not your hyperbole.

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BTW, I am curious why you keep rehashing these big numbers or $700 billion and $1,000 trillion. Did you expect a $1000 stimulus would fix the mess Bush and the Conservatives got us into? Of coarse those are huge numbers, they had to be in order to address the monstrous catastrophy the Bush administration visited upon America. While the $700 billion was the right number (only $400 - 500 billion was actually used and all of it has been paid back, with interest, I think, so even USING that number in your argument contradicts your point), the $1,000 trillion wasn't enough, most economists agree now. The original number of $787 billion was based on 3rd Qtr, 2008 data, before the total disaster was known. Economists think Obama needed to add another $800 billion but, as you well know, that was never going to fly. Also, most economists agree that if Conservatives had been a positive, or even a neutral force, rather than the highly negative and derisive force they truly are, the economy would be in much better shape than it is. In other words if the Conservatives had "pulled" with Obama instead of "pushing" against him, we might be seeing 5% growth and 6% unemployment today and not what we have. It actually surprises me Obama has been able to achieve the modest economic success he has, given the obstinant refusal of the Conservatives to help Americans.

But then, helping individual Americans isn't in the Conservative philosophy is it? To Conservatives, "Provide for the general Welfare" has nothing to do with the citezenry of America.

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A STEADY diet of Obama propaganda has destroyed your brain.As technical as you are, you truly need to research the truth about what the Obama gang is all about.

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My Esoteric Level 6 Commenter 4 weeks ago

To tell the truth, I don't believe a word of what either side says, they all lie, or at least greatly exagerate. All their words do is give me something to look at, if it peaks my interest. I just look at what my research shows, and that is what I report (unless, of course, it is a matter of principle and cannot be researched, but only reasoned through). That should make debate simple; all anyone needs to do to prove me wrong, is present the data or logic to back up their claim.

Believe it or not, I have been known to change my opinion once I dig into the facts of the matter and when I do, I report that as well.

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''when I do, I report '' Don't get me wrong, I respect your words of wisdom, even when we on on different tracks.

''says, they all lie,'' I DISCOVERED A NEW PHRASE, instead of half truths, I'm going to use the word ''DISTORTS and/or DISTORTIONS''.

Which one do you prefer?

Who owns big oil? Obama and the Democrats want to tax them?

http://whoownsbigoil.org/

Oct 12,2011

Obama Misleads on Opposition to Jobs Bill

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-misleads

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I think both are usefull, depending on context.

I looked at your Big Oil blog and considered the words you tagged on the end "... want to tax them..." Would you consider that a distortion? In fact, the Democrats don't want to "tax" them at all, meaning add on new taxes that weren't ever there before, instead, they want to remove what has become a "tax give-away", one of the causes of the national deficit and debt. From my point of view, removing a "subsidy", something I thought conservatives hated, is not a tax hike, it is simply ending a program they feel is no longer needed.

Now, if you want to argue, as some have, that the "tax give-away" or subsidy is still somehow needed by a company whose Net Profit after taxes is $43 billion, that is a different story altogether and doesn't fall in the realm of distortion.

I then looked at a few of things claimed in the blog you offered.

Claim: Net Profit of around 8%; Exxon's 2011 Net Profit, after taxes was 9%, so close, but his graph that he provides stops there, it doesn't continue on down to say the retail food industry which is normally in the 3% range, or my industry where I find myself at around 5%. (Isn't that Deception by ommission?)

Claim: Since 1981, the Industry paid out more in Taxes than [Net] Profit; Exxon's 20011 Net Profit was $42 billion and taxes were $31 billion, so, may not be true any more.

Claim: The blogger says oil companies have invested more than $25 billion to drill for shale oil in the US in 2011, with such investment creating 20,000+ jobs since 2008. Exxon, invests between $-10 billion (I am not sure how they managed to go negative in 2007, but that is what their balance sheet shows) to $70 billion in 2009; it looks like Exxon's normal annual investment, however is around $20 - 25 billion with $10 - 12 billion being offset in depreciation deductions. Now, I applaud the oil industry for investing $25 billion in America in 2011, but the blogger once again distorts his message by omitting "which is x% of the total they invested world-wide" from his statement. He was trying to make it seem like Big Oil was doing America a huge favor when, in fact, it might be just a tiny one.

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As to your other link, the Weekly Standard starts of Distorting their Distoriong article by saying:

"Last night, two Democratic senators helped block a motion to debate and vote on the president's jobs bill. That hasn't stopped Barack Obama from arguing that it was Republicans in the Senate WHO ARE SOLEY responsible for holding up his bill's movement."

They are trying to chatise Obama for lying to the public because two conservative Democrats (a party who encompasses a wide spectrum of political beliefs) joined all, or most of the conservative Republicans (who almost always, with one exception every so often, vote in lock-step with what ever their Minority Leader says). Well, in fact, Obama DIDN'T lie, the Weekly Standard is. They went on to report, to back up their claim, that Obama said:

"... a Republican minority got together as a group to block ..."

Do you see the word "soley" in there, or any other word like it? No you don't. In fact, even if the two conservative Democratic Senators Had voted with their party, the Republicans would have still accomplished their goal of preventing Obama from doing good for America.

The American Standard not only distorted, they lied.

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They didn't lie as you proclaim, they just reported a HALF TRUTH AS LIKE OBAMA publically does quite often.

''preventing Obama from doing good for America.''

5/02/12

Lies, Damned Lies and Government Jobs Data

The truth, The U.S. economy is creating jobs

http://www.foxbusiness.com/investing/2012/05/02/em

4/10/12

Potential impact of Obama's 'Buffett rule'

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/your-world-cavuto/in/v/1555656093001/potential-impact-of-obamas-buffett-rule/?playlist_id=86929

The President's Speech Distorts the Truth to Distract From His Failed Record

http://www.facebook.com/notes/paul-ryan/the-presid

What has Obama done for the middle class and the poor? JOBS JOBS ????

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hmmmm, how do get a "half-truth" when the assertion is Obama said "solely" and he actually said "the Republican minority got together as a group to block ...". That is quite different than saying something like, "100% of the Republican minority voted to block ... and received no help from Democrats or Independents." Now, in the latter case, Obama is saying "soley".

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Today 5/04/12, the unemployment rate dropped to 8.1% after a job report of 116,000 new jobs in April. Hocus pokus with the numbers? Another million droped out of the workforce, could that be an answer.Maybe they stopped looking because they didn't have the money to pay for gas?

HOPE and CHANGE is coming home to roost?

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Found this link of tweeter, check it out.

Obama's Orwellian Unemployment Numbers: Today's numbers are truly bad- Chart 1 attached. http://eib.tw/KAaStX for more. http://pic.twitter.com/eX9SsVYh

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My Esoteric Level 6 Commenter 4 weeks ago

What surprises me about that chart is that even in the best of recent times, Clinton's Presidency, participation rate only gets to 67%. By comparison, it is 64% today, down from 66% when Bush left office but at which time, the rate was already plummeting because the effects of the Conservative recession were just beginning to visit itself on the American public. The question is, without Obama's actions, how much lower would that number be?

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JON EWALL Hub Author 3 weeks ago

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5/08/12

The President often says '' let me be clear''. The President says that his administration inherited a mess. What is funny is that he fails to tell the American people that he and his party , Democrats, were in majority control of Congress, the House and the Senate, from Jan.2007 to Dec. 2008. Obama’s statements are a distortion of the true facts or that he and his party forgot that they were a part of the 2008 recession.

The President is on the campaign trail blaming the Republicans, the do nothing Republicans, who had no legislation that they proposed be allowed to go to committee by majority leader Pelosi or Senate leader Reid. The mainstream media reporting on the Presidents actions are really biased, don’t you agree?

From Jan. 2009 to 2010, the President and his party had a super majority congress, 100% control of the government. Blaming Republicans for holding up legislation is disingenuous if anything. JOBS, JOBS JOBS, the country is waiting.

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My Esoteric Level 6 Commenter 3 weeks ago

The fact that the Dems had finally regained control of Congress after losing it to the Conservatives 12 years earlier is mute in regards to the Great Conservative Recession of 2008. The downturn that became the near Depression was already under way when the Dems got control. Further, while they may have gained the majority as the recession began, it doesn't mean they were capable of doing anything about it, even if they had the time to effect the outcome, which they didn't. Remember, that is when the Conservatives began abusing the power of the filabuster in the Senate; in addition, the Conservatives held the Presidency.

No, the fact that Dems got control in 2007 means absolutely nothing, given they were not able to do anything to stop it from happening.

THEY WERE, however, able to help stop it from becoming a Depression because, without the Democratic majority, TARP, one of the underpinnings of mitigating what was happening, would likely have gone down in defeat if the Conservatives were still in control.

The 2008 Recession was totally a Conservative-sponsored downturn because, as I have clearly shown in another hub, that the Conservative economic philolophy, the Austrian School, simple doesn't work in the real world, it never has.

By the way, it WAS that supermajority that allowed the Obama stimulus to pass; without it, this country would still be in a depression, not recovering from the biggest recession since 1937. Do you honestly think that without that supermajority, the Conservatives wouldn't have abused the filabuster some more and blocked the stimulus in the Senate? You know they would have have because Conservatives believe a good depression is needed once in awhile to "cleanse" the National soul.

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JON EWALL Hub Author 3 weeks ago

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With due respect for your opinions, I must say that you truly are misguided.Thank you for ALL of your posts to my hub.

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JON EWALL Hub Author 2 weeks ago

hubbers

Where are the jobs?

5/09/12

Obamacare, Taxing jobs out of existence

WHY are companies not hiring?

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=51364

April 19, 2012

Democrats Joining G.O.P. on Keystone Pipeline approval

Obama has said he would veto. The bill passed 293 to 127,

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/us/politics/demo

The President says that the government must invest in the country.A $1 trillion investment with borrowed money with NO RETURN equals a bad return.How come the government is not being investigated for fraud and abuse of taxpayer money?

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My Esoteric Level 6 Commenter 2 weeks ago

Jon, regarding the over=generalization you made about Obamacare taxing jobs out of existance; your source needs to get his facts correct. He said:

"In 2010, however, Congress, ravenous for revenues to fund Obamacare, included in the legislation a 2.3 percent tax on gross revenues -- which generally amounts to about a 15 percent tax on most manufacturers' profits -- from U.S. sales of medical devices beginning in 2013. This will be piled on top of the 35 percent federal corporate tax, and state and local taxes. The 2.3 percent tax will be a $20 billion blow to an industry that employs more than 400,000, and $20 billion is almost double the industry's annual investment in research and development."

The problem with his theory is the 2.3% EXCISE tax does not impact a company's bottom line, it is a tax on the product which is passed on to the consumer; your telephone bill has several of them in it was does what you pay for gas at the pump. That is why you haven't heard any of these companies squawking. This tax doesn't impact jobs one iota.

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My Esoteric Level 6 Commenter 2 weeks ago

As to the pipeline, Conservatives continue to circumvent the truth and rational decision-making in order to demonize Obama.

FACT - OBAMA supports the Keystone pipeline in theory

FACT - The Mebraska Repulican governor was opposed to the route chosen through is state and their Republican legislature PASSED A LAW prohibiting the current route of the pipeline

FACT - Conservatives gave up their belief in State's Rights in their efforts to thwart the decision of the Nebraska government..

FACT - Pipelines can cause environmental disasters

FACT - Conservatives apparently don't care, as proven by their insistance of building the pipeline now, rather than waiting until a safer route is found and researched and approved in a rational manner.

FACT - When a safe route is found (apparently one has been) that satifies the Republicans in Nebraska and the State Department, Obama will give the go ahead.

FACT - Obama did give the go-ahead on part of the pipeline South of Nebraska.

FACT - the US will NOT see a decline in gas prices once the pipeline is complete and oil is flowing for almost ALL of it will be sold overseas.

Conservatives need to get their FACTS straight.

FACT -

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JON EWALL Hub Author 2 weeks ago

hubbers

To increase the national debt limits will be an issue ih the Nov. elections. Just a reminder of the past for President Obama and the Democrats who pushed PAY-GO legislation in 2010. We are a nation of the rule of law,President Obama and our elected Congressional Representatives tell us.

2/13/10 2.04 pm est.

President Barack Obama is hailing PAYGO budget legislation

PAYGO compels new spending or tax changes to not add to the federal deficit.

http://chicagoconsultant.com/page2.php?category=2&

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My Esoteric Level 6 Commenter 2 weeks ago

Jon, you do understand that increasing the debt limit to pay bills already incurred is not the same thing as PAY-GO; instead, it is an entirely different issue where Conservatives, having already been burned by a lowering of our national credit rating because of their antics, want to do it again.

Budget negotiations are where you discuss things like PAY-GO, not brinksmanship over whether to default on our debt or not.

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JON EWALL Hub Author 2 weeks ago

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''Budget negotiations'', the House passed a 2012 and 2013 budget. The Senate hasn't passed a budget in 3+ years. the Senate will not put a budget on the floor, that's what you call ''Budget negotiations''.

There is a simple solution if the President and Congress follows the PAY-GO law. CHECK OUT THESE LINKS!

2/13/10 2.04 pm est.

President Barack Obama is hailing PAYGO budget legislation

PAYGO compels new spending or tax changes to not add to the federal deficit.

http://chicagoconsultant.com/page2.php?category=2&

On CBS

the Ryan budget by Congressman Van Hollen

http://republicanredefined.com/2012/04/01/contrast

The Senator Coburn report '' WASTE IN GOVERNMENT'' http://coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/rightnow

It's all too simple, just stop spending money we do not have. The government is the largest employer in the country. When businesses lose money, they have no other choice but to cut cost. To be fair with the people who pay for government, government needs to put some skin in the game. Senator Coburn has found $9 trillion of waste. Cutting wastes in government before entitlements seem quite reasonable. Why won't the President and the Democrat Senate listen to the other side of the isle and the people?

Almost 4 years ago, the President spoke differently.

Campaign Promises During the 2008 presidential election campaign http://jon-ewall.hubpages.com/hub/barakobamacampai

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My Esoteric Level 6 Commenter 2 weeks ago

"budget" is a broad term and my meaning is all parts of the process that ends up as an appropriation sent to the President for signature. It doesn't just mean the physical document that is supposed, not required, to be passed every March or April. As I understand, the "budget" was set last year in the negotiations over the debt ceiling, a time where it shouldn't have been done. You and I both know that if Reid did put forward a budget, it would never be passed anyway, the Conservatives would filibuster it into non-existance, it would be a massive waste of time given the kind of no-compromise Republicans who are in the Senate; one might consider it fraud, waste, and abuse of government funds, lol.

As you know, all a budget does is set "not to exceed" limits, in broad terms, that the appropriators use as guidelines to come up with the final budget for any given fiscal year. It is the appropriation discussions where the fight ought to take place, not during the decision on whether to default on America's obligations or not.

You are quite wrong in saying businesses only have one choice when they are losing money - cut costs. In my business, I will try to raise revenues first rather than destroy peoples lives as my first choice. Doesn't that make more sense?

Of course the government is the largest employer in the country, they have the military to manage. Take DoD and other national security agencies out of the equation, then there are several companies bigger than the remaining federal government; Walmart, for example.

How much of that $9 billion is the same waste that Obamacare is trying to get rid of in Medicare and Medicaid; $5 billion is it? If you take the best run companies in America, you are going to find a minimum of 5% of their operating costs can be tied to waste and inefficiency; it is endimic and will always exist because perfection is impossible to obtain. So, even if the federal government was 99% efficient, there would still be $13 billion in waste.

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JON EWALL Hub Author 2 weeks ago

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The President's budget was voted on YEA 0- NAY 99, doesn't that say something? All the bull about Reid not allowing a 2013 budget to be debated on is TO COVER THE REAL TRUTH.

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JON EWALL Hub Author 13 days ago

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I HAVE MADE POSTS ON SOME OF YOUR HUBS that apparently you have decided to not allow. just a kind note that what goes around , comes around. have a good day!

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My Esoteric Level 6 Commenter 13 days ago

Yes I did, sorry, but I didn't have a choice; it was causing a "duplicate link" error that upset Hubpages. If the error will not appear, I will repost it.

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JON EWALL Hub Author 12 days ago

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SORRY,It's called censorship.

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My Esoteric Level 6 Commenter 12 days ago

Actually, I think (not totally sure though) that this is their attempt to prevent abuse in using links. This isn't saying your duplicative link was abusive in any manner, which I don't think it is and is why I didn't "Deny" it in the first place, but others apparently have abused the privilige of posting multiple links to the same site. Consequently, their search engine identifies such cases and, in my case, put a skull and crossbone icon on my hub.

I would rather not have that icon on my hub, so I "Denied" the offending comment with the duplication in it. If you want to copy your post without the one duplicate link, you had the same one in another comment, I will be more than happy to "Undeny" it.

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JON EWALL Hub Author 12 days ago

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Thank you for your response.Consider the issue a closed matter.Maybe in the future drop me a note.

JE

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My Esoteric Level 6 Commenter 12 days ago

You are certainly right, I should have done that, my apologies.

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JON EWALL Hub Author 11 days ago

HUBBERS

An update on the 2013 budget, check these sites.Comments are welcomed!

Ryan / Goolsbee debate on Ryan budget.

Who has the best plan to put Americans back to work?

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1647909607001/ryan-gool

Meet the Press 5/20/12

The Ryan/ Durbin 2013 budget discussion

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/meet-the-press/47494280

Really, something to think about in Nov.

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My Esoteric Level 6 Commenter 11 days ago

It is interesting to note that Conservatives have simply stopped Obama from implementing his, so we will never know if it would have worked. The mechanics of the Ryan plan guarantee his will take several years to bear any fruit; there is nothing in the Ryan plan that immediately gets the economy to improve faster than it is already.

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JON EWALL Hub Author 11 days ago

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'' Conservatives have simply stopped Obama from implementing his,'' YES and NO

The Senate is delaying the House jobs bills. Senator Reid will not allow those bills to advance to the floor as is the normal route, hence President Obama cannot sign or reject passage of jobs bills. it's all of the Obama plan for the 2012 election.

House passed 27 Jobs bills and have sent them to the Senate for LEGISLATION action .

, Obama or Reid telling the truth?

http://www.majorityleader.gov/JobsTracker/

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My Esoteric Level 6 Commenter 11 days ago

Two things,

1. Give me a few examples of bills that truly create jobs that DON't have a poison pill in them that Conservatives know the Dems can't accept without caving into their beliefs.

Now, I have't counted since Oct, but the House was NOWHERE near the number of "true" jobs bills they were claiming at that point in time. If fact, I enumerated all of the bills they had voted on in a hub dedicated to that topic.

However, there are plenty of examples of bills Obama/Reid put forward for a vote, and the Conservatives stopped virtually all of them via the filabuster. I think the last one was helping veterans obtain jobs.

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JON EWALL Hub Author 10 days ago

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''plenty of examples of bills Obama/Reid put forward for a vote, and the Conservatives stopped ''

If you research the reasons why the Republicans filibustered the Senate bills you will discover that the Democrats wanted to raise taxes on a SELECT GROUP of taxpayers and refused to abide by the PAY-GO LAW. The President signed the PAY-GO LAW passed by the super majority Democrat Congress ( the House and the Senate).

2/13/10 2.04 pm est.

President Barack Obama is hailing PAYGO budget legislation

PAYGO compels new spending or tax changes to not add to the federal deficit.

http://chicagoconsultant.com/page2.php?category=2&

The DEMOCRATS WANT TO TAX, the REPUBLICANS WANT TO CUT SPENDING. One must try to understand how Congress works to resolve a bypass. A simple solution is for any bills passed in either House goes to the other House for debate, amend and negotiate a bi partisan agreement. Afterward the join approved bills are negotiated together by all members of Congress, as per the requires of the Constitution. The FINAL bill than goes to the President to sign into law. Up until the time when the President signs a law, he has to be impartial in the debate. This President has publicly on many occasions told Congress that he will veto a bill if it don’t meet his demands. Some kind of leadership to defend?

American Government 101

A Mystery No More

http://ibbarkingmad.hubpages.com/hub/American-Gove

Presently the House has passed legislation, the Senate leadership refuses to allow the House bills to be debated. The President has not provided the truthful leadership to push the Senate to stop the delays in passing jobs bills. President Obama is in campaign mode at this time. Senator Reid has publicly said that he will not allow the House bills to be taken up before the election, just wondering why? Maybe the truth of how the present administration is running the economy into the ground?

Senator Coburn reports that there is $9 trillion in waste in the government today. Surely Congress can cut out enough today to reduce the deficit by the $ 5+ trillion that the Obama Administration has placed upon future generations.

The Senator Coburn report '' WASTE IN GOVERNMENT'' http://coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/rightnow

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My Esoteric Level 6 Commenter 10 days ago

Jon, actually, they were trying to follow the Pay-Go principle by bringing the taxes of the wealthy up to an historically reasonable level, one that was practical and actually worked before. But you are right, the Conservatives killed every one of Obama's jobs bills because they want to keep the economic inequity increasing within society, that was created with Reagan's tax increase on the poor and middle class to fund a larger tax increase on the wealthy, a concept the Conservatives had no problem with; the net effect was a tax increase over all, curious, isn't it. How do you justify Reagan increasing taxes for a SELECT GROUP of citizens while decreasing the taxes for another SELECT GROUP?

I am not sure I understand your history, unless your second paragraph is pure theory; 1) a President has never been impartial regarding what he wants Congress to pass, you know as well as I, that will never happen. 2) actually, I agree with your assessment of how Congress SHOULD be required, probably by a Constitutional amendment, to do. To go you one better, Speaker Bohner should be required to bring EVERY bill proposed by the Democrats be voted on and the same for Leader Reid. I also agree that the House should be required to vote on the transportation bill the bi-partisan Senate sent to it, something Bohner will not do. But again, that is theory and not how it is required to work today and neither Party will NEVER allow that process to ever become a reality. 3) Democrats and Republicans want to raise taxes in a reasonable fashion as well as cut spending, Conservatives ONLY want to cut spending, something that is simply not practical; it cannot and will not work and still have a viable government.

Yes, the House has passed bills where the Senate hasn't/won't bring up. How come you don't criticize the bills the Senate passed, with a bi-partisan vote, that Bohner won't allow to be debated in the House? I don't understand your lack of "what is good for the gander, is good for the goose" approach to this discussion.

I can never understand the Conservative mantra that the "present administration is running the economy into the ground"; it is totally counterintuitive to reality. Let's try to staighten this out by you answering a couple of questions:

1. Which administration drove the economy into the biggest recession since 1937?

2. Which adminsitration has,1) stopped the recession from becoming a derpression, 2) stopped 700,000 people from losing their jobs every month faster than any other president in history faced with a similarly sized recession, 3) has had positively growing econonmy for virtually every month he has been in office, granted some of that improvement was stopping the economy declining even more than it was going to, and 4) turned job losses into job growth in less than a year after he took office, again a record for any president faced with a similar problem?

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JON EWALL Hub Author 9 days ago

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President Obama and Senator Reid have publically announced that jobs bills and the 2013 budget will not be addressed in the Senate prior to the Nov. election. Leader Boehner wants the President and the Senate to take actions to resolve the deficits, budgets and the tax hikes that will confront the Congress in Dec.2012.

5/22/12

Economy Could Tip Back Into Recession on Washington Impasse, Budget Office Says

The Obama record to date.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/23/business/congres

WAKE UP AMERICA,Washinton needs NEW leadership to turn the government around.

Not a conspiracy theorist 9 days ago

Seems like you have nothing else to do then talk about what the prez is doing I think you need too cool down and stop saying things will be broke by a certain year it's like saying the world will end in 2012 or 2000 or every decade trends come and go by saying it will stay the same for 10 or 20 years is ridiculous

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My Esoteric Level 6 Commenter 9 days ago

Your article, Jon, demonstrate exactly why America needs to throw the Conservatives out and replace them with either rational Republicans or Democrats. If that happens, then, while may go ahead and force the country back into a recession on Dec 31, 2012, a more pragmatic and "America First" Congress can begin repairing the ideologically-caused damage in Jan 2013.

I am hopefull, but not optimistic, that we can get back to the kind of Congress the signers of the Constitution had in mind, one that would compromise for the good of the country; like the one we had before 1994.

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JON EWALL Hub Author 9 days ago

The President and the Democrats BELIEVE that taxing the rich will solve the countrys problems.

5/09/12

Obamacare, Taxing jobs out of existence

WHY are companies not hiring?

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=51364

4/10/12

Potential impact of Obama's 'Buffett rule ' President Obama’s

2011 tax returns rate was . 20.5 % , a lot less than his secretary

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/your-world-cavuto/20

Who owns big oil? Obama and the Democrats want to tax them?

http://whoownsbigoil.org/

Republicans want to cut the waste out of government, is hat the wrong approach?

The President forgets the Pay-Go law.

President Barack Obama is hailing PAYGO budget legislation

PAYGO compels new spending or tax changes to not add to the federal deficit.

http://chicagoconsultant.com/page2.php?category=2&

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